The reason Watchtower has been so vocal against the Catholic church is that they see it as a very large tree with lots of low-hanging fruit. So they love to shake the Catholic tree to knock the ripe Catholic fruit into their baskets. Islam is also a large tree but the fruits are very high up and hard to reach and there are lots of hornets nests in it so if they shake that tree they risk inciting a swarm of hornets that will attack them. Besides, the rusty grey knife that they have does not work on - was not designed for - the Islamic fruit.
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Why hasn't the WT spoken out as loudly about Islam as it has catholics?
by Bad_Wolf inmuslims are now outnumbering catholics.
could the gb be all talk, and afraid if they spoke out against them, the last words they would hear at one of their talks would be "aloha snackbar!"?
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"...You will be Disfellowshipped for 7 years"
by HereIgo inshortly before i left the "troof" a co had given a talk during his visit.
at the time there was a scandal going on in the congregation where 2 couples basically swapped spouses with each other.
it was quite the scandal.
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Island Man
JWs love to say that only unrepentant people are disfellowshipped. But the COs words reveal that appearances trump repentance. If a JW commits a sin that becomes well-known in the non-JW community and brings reproach on the congregation from non-JWs, that JW will be disfellowshipped no matter how truly repentant he is!
The organization values its reputation as sqeeky clean, only true Christians, more than it values love, justice and mercy for the repentant. They're no better than the pharisees mentioned in the bible.
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Just a survey
by Homer notsimpson injust to get others opinions and experiences.
out of everyone in the jw organization, how many do you think never get caught doing a "gross sin "?
and how many do you think actually get caught?
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Island Man
It's hard to say. I personally think the rate of sin is about the same as with other churches, it's just more hidden because of the disfellowshipping policy. The disfellowshipping policy motivates JWs to go to greater lengths to keep their serious sins hidden, and that in turn creates the illusion that there is less sin among JWs than other churches.
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How can angels be sexually attracted to women?
by Island Man inthe nephilim account in genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction.
think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals.
now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible.
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Island Man
SlappySlap: "How can human be sexually attracted to animals ? I can't understan[d] it, yet it's possible."
Yes, it's possible - but still relatively rare - because humans have a sex drive as opposed to sexless angels that don't.
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Is there truth in religion
by bola ini am asking this questions due to the teachings, beliefs and practices of different religions..
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Island Man
There is some truth in all religions. But that truth usually consists of common sense wisdom and facts about human psychology that people have acquired over the centuries. One certainly doesn't need religion to learn those truths, and those truths didn't originate with religion but was adopted by them - the same are morality.
The other more extraordinary claims of religions are almost certainly all false. One of the common tactics religions use is to give themselves credibility by demonstrating the truthfulness of their more trivial common sense claims and claims about human psychology, and then ride that wave or credibility to persuade people to accept their more ridiculous extraordinary claims.
For example, a religious authority might say something like: 'Modern psychologists have proven that the bible is right when it says 'an answer when mild turns away rage'. This proves it's a book of truth and wisdom inspired by God. Therefore we must not doubt it's truthfulness when it says that God made the first woman from a rib of the first man!'.
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How can angels be sexually attracted to women?
by Island Man inthe nephilim account in genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction.
think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals.
now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible.
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Island Man
The Nephilim account in Genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction. Think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals. Now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible. So how could sexless angels notice that the daughters of humans are beautiful and have a desire to sleep with them? It make no sense. It is clear that the writer is ignorant of biology - ignorant of the tight link between biology and sex drive - or he would know that there's no way for genderless and sexless angels to be sexually attracted to humans.
Additionally, how/why are these angels able to produce offspring with humans? Are we supposed to believe that the angels took such great care to construct materialized bodies that are human right down to the level of creating compatible DNA with the right number of chromosomes to ensure offspring can be produced? That would mean that their chief concern was not lust but reproduction. But the text implies that it was lust.
The whole story should seem utterly ridiculous to anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of biology. I think this is perhaps one of the more under-mentioned and under-ridiculed stories of the bible.
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Let's all play a game! What does this passage of the Bible tell us about Jehovah?
by stuckinarut2 inlets play a fun game?.
we all know that as witnesses, we were constantly told to read the bible, and ask ourselves what the passage we read reveals about god.. as an example, here is a wt that highlights this.. may 2016 wt study edition "benefit fully from jehovah's provisions".
8 ask questions.
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Island Man
There's a scripture in James, I believe, that goes something like this:
'If anyone sees his brother in need and has the means to help him but does not - the love of God does not remain in him.'
What does this tell us about God? Well God is able to see all who are in need and he certainly has the means to help them all, yet he does not. This tells us that the god of the bible is a monumental hypocrite who does not have the love of himself in himself. He condemns humans for not helping their fellow human in need, yet he can help everyone with less effort than it takes a human to snap their finger, and yet he does not do it. Such behavior on his part is very reminiscent of Jesus' words about the pharisees binding up heavy loads on the people while they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.
There is another text in the NT where it mentions the qualifications for elders and it says that if a man does not have children in subjection then he is unfit to serve as an overseer in the congregation because if he can't manage his own household then cannot manage the household of god. This scripture again highlights the hypocrisy of the god of the bible. The bible shows that god cannot manage his own household because a third of the angels rebelled against his authority.
Time would fail me if I go on to enumerate how the god of the bible, while claiming to be the epitome of love, fails to live up to the definition of love given by Paul in Corinthians 13.
It's very interesting how a so-called perfect god cannot or will not live up to the scriptural principles that he expects his imperfect human creation to live up to.
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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?
by minimus ini pretty much did it all.
vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.
i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.
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Island Man
I once climbed all the way up the top of a ladder to do some work on an elder's roof after a hurricane - a two-story building, even!
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Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert
by JW GoneBad incircuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.
and everything is caught on video!.
kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.
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Island Man
"I noticed that in the videos I watched, the kingdom halls he visited were practically empty. I wonder if that's the case now in most places?"
Keep in mind that he usually comes at the start of the meeting and interrupts the opening prayer so the empty seats you see may not be a true reflection of the level of absenteeism when you factor in the number of JWs who are habitually late to the meetings.
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Movies I'm Watching
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have, for about 6 months now, been trying to watch every single movie that was "cool" or interesting since 1960.it started out with a desire to watch as an adult all disney movies.
then it morphed into all bond movies (except for the non-canonicals).now it's turned into pretty much any and all movies.
here is my list, scratched out are ones i have seen, green are recent next-in line.turns out there was a lot i had never seen before, about 70% because of the cult restrictions!
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Island Man
You missed out two great movies that you definitely do not want to miss:
War of the Worlds - 2005
I Am Legend - 2007
Trust me when I say that both movies are highly underrated.
The Mist - 2007 is another great movie that you definitely do not want to miss.